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sevenhelz at 11:57pm on 08/05/2009 under firefighters, post-feminism, women, women in music
sevenhelz at 11:57pm on 08/05/2009 under firefighters, post-feminism, women, women in musicI was just reading an old Shakeville post on firefighters - firefighters, not firemen - and someone commented "i think in a post-feminist world there would still be more male firefighters than female, but it doesn't matter" blah blah blah.
I think there's no way we could know.
I think in a post-feminist, post fat-hatred world women would be taller and stronger. We still wouldn't match up to men all the time, but there's always variation and there would be plenty strong enough women to go round. I think in a post-feminist world full of tall, strong women proud of their bodies, there would be many more strong women in jobs that are understood to be physically demanding (more so than cleaning, which actually, have you ever mopped?) like firefighting. It might not be totally equal; then again, it might vary hugely area to area. Crews of women might train together! The army would probably have more, taller women, since I note that many women joining the T.A. are really rather short. This is definitely a disadvantage in the weight training. Anyway... In a post-feminist world where women are generally taller, stronger and prouder than is currently the case, I also like to think there would be more women playing the euphonium and the tuba, and that if all brass bands are not inclusive, there would be women-only brass bands competing at the highest level. This wouldn't just be a case of physical strength, although that's one clear reason that many women who play brass choose smaller instruments (I myself do not have the lung capacity or the upper/lower back/upper arm strength for anything larger than euphonium). It would be a case of not being surrounded by people waiting for you to slip up, or sitting you on the lower chair before they've heard you play.
So. In a post-feminist world, what do you like to imagine women doing more of?
I think there's no way we could know.
I think in a post-feminist, post fat-hatred world women would be taller and stronger. We still wouldn't match up to men all the time, but there's always variation and there would be plenty strong enough women to go round. I think in a post-feminist world full of tall, strong women proud of their bodies, there would be many more strong women in jobs that are understood to be physically demanding (more so than cleaning, which actually, have you ever mopped?) like firefighting. It might not be totally equal; then again, it might vary hugely area to area. Crews of women might train together! The army would probably have more, taller women, since I note that many women joining the T.A. are really rather short. This is definitely a disadvantage in the weight training. Anyway... In a post-feminist world where women are generally taller, stronger and prouder than is currently the case, I also like to think there would be more women playing the euphonium and the tuba, and that if all brass bands are not inclusive, there would be women-only brass bands competing at the highest level. This wouldn't just be a case of physical strength, although that's one clear reason that many women who play brass choose smaller instruments (I myself do not have the lung capacity or the upper/lower back/upper arm strength for anything larger than euphonium). It would be a case of not being surrounded by people waiting for you to slip up, or sitting you on the lower chair before they've heard you play.
So. In a post-feminist world, what do you like to imagine women doing more of?
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To be fair, that's not a male/female thing, that's a competitive environment thing. Competitive environments are damn nasty for men too.
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